TORONTO - Randy Bachman and Fred Turner are on the verge of another lifetime achievement award, but Bachman says he's lost hope that his bands will ever be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland.

Bachman-Turner Overdrive and the Guess Who -- both of which included Bachman as a principal songwriter -- have not been ushered into the Hall. The 2011 class -- which includes Neil Diamond, Alice Cooper and Tom Waits -- will be officially inducted on Monday.

But Bachman says he's done waiting to be recognized.

"I don't think it'll ever happen where we get honoured by the U.S., the real Rock and Roll Hall of Fame," he said in an interview alongside Turner in Toronto on Wednesday.

"They bypassed the Guess Who, Bachman-Turner Overdrive, Rush, they just don't seem to give that much thought about Canadian bands who have really sold a lot of records and made some great music.

"There's been much lesser bands put in there, and guys who aren't rockers who I shouldn't name, but ... he's more of a folk artist, and he's a poet, you know what I mean? It's in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame."

"There's been many movements since 2000, when I was in the Guess Who and we got back together. ... The movements just go unnoticed by these guys, so you get used to it.

"It ain't gonna happen. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it."

However, Bachman and Turner are ecstatic about their latest honour -- an induction into the Canadian Music & Broadcast Industry Hall of Fame.

The Winnipeg blue-collar rockers will be feted alongside entertainment lawyer and television producer Stephen Stohn and broadcast pioneer Bill Evanov at a ceremony scheduled for Thursday during Canadian Music Week in Toronto.

Bachman is used to such recognition. He's already been ushered into the Juno Hall of Fame and the Canadian Music Hall of Fame, but this will be the first time Turner will receive this sort of career-spanning accolade.

"Randy's had many, so he'll guide me through it," said Turner, adding he once turned down such an honour from the Juno Awards because it "wasn't the right time and the right place."

Bachman, meanwhile, says he never gets tired of these awards.

"It's nice to get any awards whether it's lifetime achievement or the Keith Richards award for being alive one more year," he jokes.

Meanwhile, the pair's latest reunion will keep rolling along.

They recorded a concert for PBS and plan on issuing it in the form of a 3D concert DVD in the fall. And they chat with obvious excitement about their next record.

"We thought it'd be more bluesy, more jazzy-bluesy," said Bachman, who like his partner, looks noticeably slimmed down.

"(We said) let's make it more simple. Let's just be me, you and a drummer. Like a three-piece, real raw thing. Like the Black Keys kind of thing."

But they're not done supporting last fall's self-titled comeback disc.

Bachman says that with CD sales remaining anemic industry-wide, the emphasis now more than ever is on booking plenty of gigs to support the new material.

"It's not the kind of days when 'Not Fragile' came out and we sold 3 million copies in the first week and then 6 million copies in the next couple months -- that doesn't happen. We sell 300 copies, you're pretty happy, because there's no stores anymore for CDs.

"So it's a whole evolution. Change is inevitable, and you can't stop that change. You say, 'Wait, stop,' and it just drives right over you."

But something has changed within the band, Bachman and Turner say. They're enjoying themselves more than they used to, and getting along better too.

"It's not competitive now," Turner said. "It's more, go out and enjoy the fruits and play with the only pressure being the travel and the rigours of the road rather than the competing and trying to climb up the ladder."

Added Bachman: "Basically, we're kind of alike in our likes and in our attitude. We both get up early in the morning, we work out, we still write and play, and we still have great respect for our family and our kids and stuff like that. Neither of us was what you would call a party animal even in our rock 'n' roll No. 1 days.

"We finished a gig and went back to our room, phoned our wives, said goodnight to them and went to sleep and got up and did the same thing again the next day."