NEW YORK -- It will be a full house when NHL owners and players meet this afternoon to discuss collective bargaining negotiations.

The NHL Players' Association says 18 players will attend the session, including Sidney Crosby, Jonathan Toews, Ryan Miller, Shane Doan and Mike Cammalleri.

They will sit across from six league owners: Mark Chipman (Winnipeg), Murray Edwards (Calgary), Larry Tanenbaum (Toronto), Jeff Vinik (Tampa Bay), Ron Burkle (Pittsburgh) and Jeremy Jacobs (Boston).

Neither commissioner Gary Bettman nor NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr will take part.

The idea for the meeting came from Bettman after the sides wrapped up two unsuccessful days with U.S. federal mediators last week.

It was originally thought only six players would sit in on the meeting but the NHL said it didn't mind if more came.